Ukraine Pilots Can See Russia Drone Feeds As so Many in the Sky

• There are so many drones in Ukraine that operators sometimes accidentally pick up other feeds.
• Those moments can provide incoming attack warnings and intelligence.
• It is an emerging element within the constantly evolving drone war.

There are so many drones in the sky in Ukraine that drone operators are occasionally stumbling onto drone feeds and picking up unexpected intel. Neither side can be sure though when they are going to luck into this or when the enemy will suddenly get insight into their own activities.

Drones are being used more in Russia’s war against Ukraine than in any other conflict in history, including cheap first-person-view drones. They are being used to attack troops and vehicles, complicating battlefield maneuvers, and they’re so prolific that ground troops often struggle to sort out which ones are their drones and which belong to the enemy.

Ukrainian drone operators told Business Insider that extensive drone warfare has resulted in unintentional feed switching.

When this occurs, operators on one side of the battlefield can see the feed of the other side’s drone — typically airborne devices that can target soldiers and gather intelligence to direct fires. A drone operator in Ukraine said being able to see Russian drone feeds is “useful because you see where the enemy drone that wants to destroy you is flying.”

That gives the unit a chance to take defensive action.

Samuel Bendett, a drone expert at the Center for Naval Analyses, described it as the wartime version of a common civilian occurrence. When you drive in your car and have your radio at a certain frequency, your radio can flip between different stations that use the same frequency. That is what is happening right now in Ukraine, Bendett said.

Fight for the spectrum

Jackie, a US veteran fighting in Ukraine, said: “Right now, there are two fights when we’re fighting with drones. There’s one that you can see on video. And there’s one that’s completely invisible.” That invisible fight is the fight in the electromagnetic spectrum or “fight for the spectrum.”

The electromagnetic spectrum can get “full” and get “crowded,” he explained. When there are enough drones in an area, you’ll have “a lot of the feeds between those drones transferring, basically switching between operators without intent.”

When that situation happens, it means “the drone guy would just suddenly see some other drones feed,” Jackie said. So when enough drones are in the sky, everyone is “constantly switching feeds between some other drone that they’re not flying.”

Bendett said it was possible to do this deliberately if you know the frequency your adversary is operating on, but most of the time, he said, it’s accidental.

He said this sort of thing happens “because technologies for both sides are similar, and there’s only so many operating frequencies you can hop on to actually pilot your drones.”

Advantages and disadvantages

As neither side has dominated the electromagnetic spectrum through electronic warfare, both sides are experiencing all the advantages and disadvantages of these developments. Sometimes Ukraine is collecting intel, and sometimes it’s Russia.

The feed can help operators helplessly realize an attack is incoming, and “it also can be very informative for drone crews, experienced ones to kind of determine the tactic of the adversary, how far the drone flies, how fast it flies, what’s the drone route, what the drone is looking for, and so on and so forth,” Bendett said.

But it’s a hard thing to plan for given the chaotic nature of these occurrences.

Jackie shared that Ukraine has attempted to “play games with the signals,” but Gregory Falso, an autonomous systems and cybersecurity expert at Cornell University, said that “it’s probably not predictable when you’d be able to get these capabilities.” It’s more about seizing the advantage when the opportunity arises.

Switching signals

Falco said it would be difficult to tell if the enemy has access to a feed because “you don’t have absolute certainty of where your band is at a given time and where you’re projecting.”

There are questions about whether this could be taken further, though, going from accidental insight to deliberately pirated drones. Right now, that’s more theory than practice.

Whether any Ukrainian or Russian operators could actually get control of the other side’s drone, rather than just being able to see through its eyes, probably depends on the drone, Falco said.

He explained that the spectral bands used to see drone feeds are likely very different from the ones that control it. And the bands used to receive signals — that let the operator see what the drone can see — are typically less protected than the ones that send the signals, which is how operators tell drones what to do.

He said the feed switching is “bound to happen” with so many drones in the sky and with different types of electronic warfare in play.

Solutions, Falco said, could involve something like added encryptions for drone feeds. But given the fast-moving, chaotic, and desperate nature of a lot of the fighting and the fact that drone operators can go through multiple drones a day and Ukraine, it may not be worth it. And if that’s the case, this kind of thing will keep happening.

He said it was the type of thing civilians would frequently see if there was less regulation. “If we didn’t have rules,” and the likes of the United Nations body that allocates the radio spectrum didn’t exist, “and companies didn’t bother playing by the rules, then this would be a normal occurrence,” Falco said.

Then, it would just be “a total shit show of hearing and seeing everything that you’re not supposed to see.”

Ukraine, often short on other weaponry as it faces off against Russia’s larger military, has been relying on drones, including to replace ammunition amid its shortages. And even the cheap drones have let Ukraine destroy Russian equipment worth millions.

Ukraine’s drones are critical assets in the war and are said to account for at least 80% of Russia’s frontline losses. Drones are super vital. They’re one of our more clever casualty-producing weapons,” Jackie said.